
Models
by Mark Manson · first published 2016
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25HN commenters
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92% recommend4% neutral4% critical
Why HN recommends it
Honest, non-PUA dating advice that is really about self-respect: emotional vulnerability, non-neediness, and playing to your strengths. Suits shy or awkward men; some say much of it applies beyond dating.
Summarised by Claude from recommending comments
Models is a book on becoming an attractive man. But it does not promote tricks, techniques, and tactics to manipulate the laws of attraction. Instead, Manson encourages men to partake in self-development to attract women in an honest way.
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…doing anything, not just tennis - The Life-Changing Magic of Tidying Up by Marie Kondo - actually maybe the most important book I've read in a while, helped me throw away a lot of stuff I didn't need - Models by Mark Manson - very helpful and ethical advice on attracting women for people like me who never really quite figured it out - A Guide to the Good Life: The Ancient Art of Stoic Joy by William B. Irvine-…
on “Ask HN: Books you read in 2015?” ↗…even before No more Mr. Nice guy. It's one of those that's hard to grasp, more of a lifetime read, when you gather more and more experiences, so that the suggestions make more sense. Those two books, "Models" by Mark Manson and "Slight edge" by Jeff Olson probably changed my life the most.
on “Why It Doesn't Pay to Be a People Pleaser” ↗…article. I was already familiar with Mark Manson and the "pickup" scene, so imagine my surprise when I saw the http://postmasculine.com link on the front page of Hacker News. I highly recommend the book Models by Mark Manson [1] if you're a man at all interested in being more attractive to women. [1] - http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1463750358
on “A Dust Over India” ↗…anti-masturbation trend that's gaining mainstream attention [3]. I highly recommend reading his stuff for anybody who's looking to improve themselves, both in dating and in general. [1] http://www.amazon.com/Models-Attract-Women-Through-Honesty/d... [2] http://www.amazon.com/How-Win-Friends-Influence-People/dp/06... [3] http://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap Edit: it looks like this was on the front page, but the HN is…
on “Fuck Yes or No” ↗I just read this book a few months ago, It was fantastic. After No More Mr. Nice Guy I highly recommend Models http://www.amazon.com/Models-Attract-Women-Through-Honesty/d... and How to win friends and influence people is a great self help book too http://www.amazon.com/How-Win-Friends-Influence-People/dp/06...…
on “No More Mr. Nice Guy” ↗…bitter and rejected. They may even get a reputation as being that "creepy pick-up artist type." You can only fake being high-status so much. The better "game" books will tell you how to raise your status. Models by Mark Manson does this. They will talk about lifting weights, how to dress well, building a social group where you get invited to house parties, finding a status hierarchy where you can be a winner,…
on “Geeks, MOPs, and sociopaths in subculture evolution” ↗Ask HN: Will you have sex with me please? Something actually helpful might be this: https://smile.amazon.com/Models-Attract-Women-Through-Honest...
…development, social behavior and relationships these two sets of books are the best theory available, and significantly better and more fundamental than anything else I found written on the topic. - Models: Attract Women through Honesty + The Subtle Art of not Giving a Fuck by Mark Manson - The Ethical Slut by Dossie Easton and Janet Hardy + More than Two by Franklin Veaux and Eve Rickert + Opening Up…
on “Ask HN: What books changed the way you think about almost everything?” ↗Thanks for sharing. If you enjoyed this, you will probably also enjoy Models by Mark Manson. I’m only 1/3 of the way through, but the topic of focusing on your strengths rather than changing yourself is a theme throughout the book.
on “Who wants to play the status game?” ↗…distinctly you. Even if you think they make you less attractive. Your goal is to be yourself and attract people who like you as you are. Then you don’t have to be someone you aren’t. I’d recommend the book Models by Mark Manson.
on “Bumble S-1” ↗…very shy with women but ended up meeting a girl there. When things ended 10 years later, I was shocked to find that I was still having difficulties in that respect. I sought a book to help and picked up Models by Mark Manson, a book about dating, and it completely altered my perspective in many ways. I realized that I wasn't shy per-se: I was needy. In my desire to please (not only women), I was, fundamentally,…
on “Ask HN: If you used to be socially awkward and shy, how did you improve?” ↗I was in the same boat - symmetrical features, visible abdominals, decent career. Couldn't put it together describes the problem very well. I found the book 'Models' by Mark Manson to be a big help. Sometimes, the right advice really does make a difference.
on “Cruel Optimism (and Lazy Pessimism)” ↗…parts here and you need to work on all of them. 1) Learn emotional vulnerability. This makes love and emotional depth in a relationship possible. It also shows confidence and strength as it can be scary. Models by Mark Manson is a great book on this. 2) Learn social skills to manage conflicts and set boundaries, e.g. assertive communication. 3) Deal with your emotional issues, e.g. with therapy. 4) Be attractive…
on “Ask HN: What can you do or learn to experience a better love life?” ↗…These mostly focus on building a good life and mental state for yourself, where becoming attractive is a byproduct. When I say no, I feel guilty by Manuel J. Smith No More Mr Nice Guy by Robert Glover Models by Mark Manson Taking Responsibility by Nathaniel Brandon
on “'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love with dating apps” ↗…lot of friends- for a lot of men in particular, this is often really the only way to build friendships. Learning how to be emotionally vulnerable is key to actually connecting with people. The book "Models" by Mark Manson is a pretty good primer on the importance of emotional vulnerability to connect with people. It is sort-of a dating advice book, but I've found it helpful for making regular friendships…
on “Ask HN: What breakthrough helped you build and maintain better relationships?” ↗