Turner Diaries
by Andrew MacDonald, William Luther Pierce · first published 1980
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Evil rebel alliance goes to war against a heroic government.
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…never exercised against it because Hoover's FBI decided it was protected by the First Amendment, and it was published by the same (commercial) publisher as Charles Bukowski, The Sensuous Woman, and The Turner Diaries, selling some two million copies in all. But it's so famously terrible that many actual anarchists have questioned whether it was really a false-flag effort aimed at getting would-be terrorists to blow…
on “The EARN IT act is back, and it’s more dangerous than ever” ↗I just checked the NYPL catalog and found The Turner Diaries, Camp of the Saints and Mein Kampf to be available. Just three examples, but I find it hard to imagine what else they’d refuse to carry if those are fine. Is there a particular book you have in mind…
on “Brooklyn Public Library offers access to banned ebooks to teens across the U.S” ↗Some books deserve to be banned. I would put Kevin MacDonald's antisemitic trilogy The Culture of Critique, the Turner Diaries ( which calls for mass extermination of non-white groups in the USA ) and Mein Kampf in the realm of books that should be shunned.
on “Banned Book Library in a Wi-Fi Smart Light Bulb” ↗William Pierce, who wrote "The Turner Diaries", a fictional book about a race war which inspired Timothy McVeigh, was a white nationalist. Here's some wikipedia pages to start with, you could read "The Turner Diaries", but even despite it's awful…
on “American Kids Aren't Getting Dumber; They Were Just Never That Smart” ↗This is a really strange take. There are many books or authors I wouldn't read and can easily dismiss. Like The Turner Diaries by William Luther Pierce. I can easily dismiss that book and its author on the merit that I wouldn't take anything away from it, based on its premise.
on “What Evelyn Waugh saw in America” ↗> The Turner Diaries is a novel by Andrew Mac Donald (William Pierce) that follows the story of a man named Turner, a member of a revolutionary organization that is fighting against the oppressive System. Turner and his comrades…
on “New Universal Summarizer by Kagi” ↗…(Note "Patriot movement" was the way right wing extremist groups were re-branded in the 90s, just as alt-right and some other names have been used since.) He made his meager living selling copies of The Turner Diaries (a novel that fantasizes about an armed revolution against the US government, and genocide of blacks, Jews, and gays: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Turner_Diaries) among other right wing literature…
on “ACLU of California Statement: White Supremacist Violence Is Not Free Speech” ↗…to believe that anyone actually believes that literally any book should be allowed in a public school library. We can disagree about where to draw the line but I don’t think anybody wants copies of The Turner Diaries in a public school library. It’s particularly hard to take these complaints seriously when they come from the same people who hold congressional hearings to attack a private business for selling certain…
on “Texas sues GM for unlawfully collecting and selling drivers' private data [pdf]” ↗I like to use "The Turner Diaries" as a kind of litmus test for people who don't want to ban books. I notice that, while all of the books this article calls out specifically are available at the Brooklyn Public Library - per their online…
on “Brooklyn Public Library offers access to banned ebooks to teens across the U.S” ↗…grader, much less a kindergartner. The partisan hyperbole around it is ridiculous on both sides. >books being banned Like Huckleberry Finn? Agree, books shouldn't be banned. Well maybe Mein Kampf and The Turner Diaries. Maybe some shouldn't be taught in public schools, right? How about the Bible? Should that be excluded from the public school corriculum? No screening of A Birth of a Nation you'd agree with? It's not…
on “Google Docs will “warn you away from inappropriate words”” ↗…meant for scholarly work. There is a historic value to those that doesn't exist for a Dr. Seuss book. And as the article points out, books that have a lower degree of historical significance like The Turner Diaries are removed. Also let's not pretend that these moderation policies are foolproof. There are always going to be examples that slip through the cracks. If you want eBay to remove them for sake of consistency,…
on “Dr. Seuss books deemed offensive will be delisted from eBay” ↗…reading in high school or university literature classes. A thought experiment by comparison: what if the collection consisted of the following? - The Camp of the Saints - Culture of Critique - The Turner Diaries Until a recent reprint of the first title (which thanks to The Streisand Effect was one of the top sellers on Amazon), these were all almost impossible to find and / or prohibitively expensive. Note…
on “Banned Book Library in a Wi-Fi Smart Light Bulb” ↗…person want it stopped and all copies removed from public libraries in the way they seem to expect from Youtube/Facebook et al? Would they want Del Ray Books be held accountable for the content of The Turner Diaries?
on “YouTube bans content “showing users how to bypass secure computer systems”” ↗‘ Plenty of controversial items—including Adolf Hitler’s “Mein Kampf” and “The Turner Diaries,” a novel popular with white-supremacist groups—were available on eBay as of Wednesday evening. When asked, the spokeswoman said these two books also fell in the “offensive material” category and would…
on “Dr. Seuss books deemed offensive will be delisted from eBay” ↗The Turner Diaries is, I think, a poor choice of litmus test for this. It was never picked up by a major publisher, and was basically always self-published as far as I know. Wikipedia gives an estimate of 200k-500k copies…
on “Brooklyn Public Library offers access to banned ebooks to teens across the U.S” ↗