Camp of the SaintsJean Raspail, Norman R. Shapiro
Camp of the Saints
by Jean Raspail, Norman R. Shapiro · first published 1977
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…nothing about it, unlike (for example) Peak Oil. Though not as famous as other dystopian novels like 1984 or Brave New World, this might yet prove to be the most prophetic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_of_the_Saints
on “When will the world reach 'peak child'?” ↗…migration, which you could call population replacement or inundation. There is an outstanding 1973 book on this issue which was written in French, and recently published in Hungary. It is called “The Camp of the Saints” [Le Camp des Saints], and I recommend it to anyone who wants to understand the spiritual developments underlying the West’s inability to defend itself. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Camp_of_the_Saints…
I just checked the NYPL catalog and found The Turner Diaries, Camp of the Saints and Mein Kampf to be available. Just three examples, but I find it hard to imagine what else they’d refuse to carry if those are fine. Is there a particular book you have in mind that “Park Slope progressives”…
on “Brooklyn Public Library offers access to banned ebooks to teens across the U.S” ↗Camp of the Saints by Jean Raspail, or White Identity by Jared Taylor, never make these banned book lists. They don't have to be "banned" - libraries simply make them unavailable, so they get to control information, without…
on “US saw record high of 5,668 books banned in libraries in 2025, says agency” ↗I think this includes school libraries, though neither the NPR nor the ALA article it sources mention that. Regardless, I'm always surprised how Camp of the Saints by Jean Raspail, or White Identity by Jared Taylor, never make the list. I guess they're just widely accepted and non-controversial?
on “American Library Association releases list of the most challenged books of 2025” ↗…for under $10. Further, they are often assigned reading in high school or university literature classes. A thought experiment by comparison: what if the collection consisted of the following? - The Camp of the Saints - Culture of Critique - The Turner Diaries Until a recent reprint of the first title (which thanks to The Streisand Effect was one of the top sellers on Amazon), these were all almost impossible to…
on “Banned Book Library in a Wi-Fi Smart Light Bulb” ↗The Camp of the Saints has nothing to do with climate change It's story about brown and black skinned others destroying western civilization with immigration. The motive is racist. The tone of the book is very passionate…
on “India heatwave temperatures pass 50 Celsius” ↗Tell me more about the checks and balances that exist in book publishing. Publishers --- often mainstream publishers --- published the first editions of Mein Kampf, Camp of the Saints, Architects of Conspiracy, Did Six Million Really Die, and all manner of medical pseudoscience.
on “YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud” ↗> I could not find the quote from Bannon or Miller saying that "Camp of the Saints is my favourite novel"? Where can I find this? So you are able to dig up quotes supporting your spin, but couldn't run a Google search finding a quote on Camp of the Saints? Here, this HuffPo article…
on “Study: Immigrants Founded 51% of U.S. Billion-Dollar Startups” ↗Bannon has, though. He thinks the correct solutions are the ones presented in Camp of the Saints.
The wall our president wants to build has nothing to do with current immigration trends. They’re banking on this future. Steve Bannon has this book he’s always talking about, The Camp of the Saints. It’s the clearest and most concise guide for how they see the climate future rolling out. (This is also why I bristle when they get called climate change deniers. They’re not, they just reached different…
on “India heatwave temperatures pass 50 Celsius” ↗…merely didn't choose it. It's only when someone else meddles with their choices that it becomes banning and censorship. (Where "no longer mandatory reading" gets reported as a "ban" by the news) The Camp of the Saints isn't in school libraries or mandatory reading lists - shall the news breathlessly report that it is also banned?
on “Book Ban Efforts Spread Across the U.S.” ↗…documents that serve to highlight specific books that the list-compiler thinks are unfairly suppressed. There's no meaningful difference between a library not stocking Gender Queer and a library not stocking Camp of the Saints; all that matters is what the political sensibilities are of the person or organization putting together the banned book list and deciding what titles to include on it.
on “US saw record high of 5,668 books banned in libraries in 2025, says agency” ↗I started reading the Camp of the Saints precisely because people said I shouldn’t. It was a bad book, I couldn’t read more than a few chapters. But I think adults should be able to read whatever they want.
on “Banned Book Library in a Wi-Fi Smart Light Bulb” ↗in what way is Camp of the Saints an endorsement of genocide?