The structure of magic

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• carapace · Jun 9, 2018 · Recommends

  "Structure of Magic, Vol. I" by Bandler The "Meta-Model" is a set of questions based on Chomsky's Transformational Grammar that are designed to elicit"hidden" information by detecting and "surfacing" the deep structure…

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• whoisjohnkid · Feb 6, 2019 · Recommends

  I have quite a few: - The Structure of Magic - The Game by Neil Strauss - Antifragile - How to win friends and influence people - 48 Laws of Power - E-Myth - Field Guide To Lucid Dreaming - Turtle Trader by Michael Covel Structure of magic…

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• carapace · Dec 16, 2019 · Recommends

  …only can I vouch for its conceptual integrity, I can also vouch for its dramatic efficacy. (This isn't "my cousin", or "some guy I heard about", it was me. I lived the anecdote.) FWIW, some books. "Structure of Magic" I & II are the first two books and are a good place to start from to see the origins of the latter work. TRANCE-Formations is a rich text on theraputic hypnosis. And then there's the Core Transformation…

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• dschiptsov · Nov 4, 2016 · Recommends

  To be honest, the very first books - The Structure of Magic - are much better than later "practical" and manipulative stuff. The notions of "patching reality" - what we call today the Confirmation and Self-serving biases (deletion, distribution) and "framing effects"…

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• carapace · Nov 23, 2019 · Recommends

  …psychology, Gregory Bateson said that the Neurolinguistic Programming folks achieved what he had been working towards, a cybernetic psychology. If you're interested, start with the very first books "Structure of Magic" vol I and II https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/964154.The_Structure_of_... https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/821993.The_Structure_of_... Essentially, by modelling therapists' verbal patterns using…

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• gala8y · Jun 22, 2023 · Recommends

  …it. This is how I see it." Few books by Ken Wilber, gave me a framework, a meta-frame of sorts when I was young. Introduction to NLP (esp. chapter V on Meta Model, took me two years to process it) Structure of Magic, vol. II - communication, incongruity Mind and Nature by Gregory Bateson And I could go on and on... but the winner is... "Embracing Our Selves" by Sidra & Hal Stone. This book and perspective changed…

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• carapace · Jun 13, 2022 · Recommends

  …nonscientific (to put it politely). If I'm being frank, I don't think most people practicing NLP understand it very well from a scientific viewpoint. I would recommend going to the source. Find and read "The Structure of Magic" (both volumes but especially the first, which explores linguistic patterns, the second volume then generalizes to the sensory channels.) You're probably going to be interested in what they call the…

• Estragon · Mar 6, 2012 · Mentions

  Yes, I read Bandler and Grinder extensively and experimented with their techniques in the 80s, starting with happening across The Structure of Magic in the local university library, and ending, IIRC, with Using Your Brain For a Change, which includes transcripts from one or more of Bandler's workshops, and convinced me that he was a bullying fraud.…

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• kesor · Nov 13, 2016 · Mentions

  This is not the first time it has been called "Magic". For example in "The Structure of Magic, Vol. 1: A Book About Language and Therapy" the book explains how people create inner models of the world to represent their experience and guide their behavior. https://www.amazon.com/dp/0831400447/

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• dschiptsov · Jan 12, 2015 · Mentions

  The subtle ideas form the original "Structure Of Magic" books about how we construct out internal representations of reality depending of wording we use has been replaced by industry of coaches and consultants. The ideas, by the way, had been studied by…

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• carapace · Apr 18, 2018 · Mentions

  …a fascinating and historically important fact that Neuro-lingustic programming grew directly out of Chomsky-informed analysis of the communications between therapists and their clients. If you read "Structure of Magic, Vol. I" it's basically using Transformational Grammar to detect missing information in the surface structure of clients' statements in a therapeutic context. ----- I've got to say that that wikipedia…

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• carapace · Sep 2, 2017 · Mentions

  Early on I got into a box of my dad's old NLP books (not Natural Language Processing, the other NLP.) "Structure of Magic" vols I and II, "Frogs into Princes", "Trance-formations", and a couple of others. NLP grew out of the application of Chomsky's Transformational Grammar to recordings of very effective psychological…

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