The recursive universe
cosmic complexity and the limits of scientific knowledge
by William Poundstone · first published 1984
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Why HN recommends it
Uses Conway's Game of Life as a lens on bigger questions, pairing its patterns with physics, biology, information theory and thermodynamics; suits lay readers wanting an approachable tour of complexity.
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The blog post was inspired by The Recursive Universe by William Poundstone. I read this book years ago and found it amazing. I recently read another book by him, Fortune’s Formula, which features the Kelly Criterion, Claude Shannon beating roulette, card…
on “The Recursive Universe” ↗I believe it's out of print now, but if you can find it, check out "The Recursive Universe" by William Poundstone. It centers around Conway's Game of Life, but every other chapter branches out to draw connections with other topics, like biology, information theory, and thermodynamics.
on “Ask HN: Looking for a Book on Cellular Automata” ↗> 1. The Recursive Universe: Cosmic Complexity and the Limits of Scientific Knowledge - Poundstone, William Wonderful, I have never once in my life encountered another person who has read this book. I first read it as a student…
on “Ask HN: Books you read in 2016?” ↗Simply fantastic. I love Conway's Game of Life. This page makes it easy to observe a huge variety of creative patterns. The book "The Recursive Universe" by William Poundstone is a fun look into the Game of Life, pairing observations and thoughts about the game with real world physics and life.
on “Show HN: Lifeee – Conway’s Game of Life with an infinite zoomable grid” ↗…must-read for fans of Conway's Game of Life and laypersons looking for an approachable read. It covers both the history of GoL, and its implications for understanding the nature of Life itself: "The Recursive Universe: Cosmic Complexity and the Limits of Scientific Knowledge" https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0809252023/ref=as_li_ss_il... (Strip the affiliate code off if you like!)
on “Show HN: Rust Implementation of Conway's Game of Life” ↗Your first question is discussed in the book The Recursive Universe by William Poundstone (1984). One of the chapters asks "what is life?". It considers (and rejects) various options, and finally settles upon a definition based on Von Neumann-style self-replicating machines…
on “1D Conway's Life glider found, 3.7B cells long” ↗…implementation for this reason. Or in more pithy terms, "The gap between theory and practice is narrower in theory than it is in practice." p.s. Speaking of theory... One of my favourite books is "The Recursive Universe: Cosmic Complexity and the Limits of Scientific Knowledge," wherein the Game of Life is used to discuss complexity, self-replication, and other fascinating topics: http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&location=...
on “Apple bans modular programming - Game of Life implementation not allowed” ↗Hey, I'm not a particle physicist, but I've read a bunch of books by people who think the universe is a computer. (Three Scientists and Their Gods, A New Kind Of Science, and The Recursive Universe (this last is out of print and much better than Wolfram's newer but more turgid ANKOS.) I don't think the universe is a computer either, but I don't think this guy understands what that would mean anyway.…
on “Rebooting the cosmos?” ↗Thanks for this recommendation. I just bought the book. Years ago, I read Poundstone's "The Recursive Universe" and loved it so his writing combined with this subject should be great.
on “Claude Shannon Documentatry, “Bit Player”, Released Today” ↗Here is my full bookshelf: http://www.kirubakaran.com/books-read.html Books Read in 2016: 1. The Recursive Universe: Cosmic Complexity and the Limits of Scientific Knowledge - Poundstone, William 2. My Brain is Open: The Mathematical Journeys of Paul Erdos - Schechter, Bruce 3. One Summer: America, 1927 - Bryson,…
on “Ask HN: Books you read in 2016?” ↗…quest for a complete knowledge of the universe. Rather, it is a process whereby certain information is selected as being more relevant to human aims and understanding." - William Poundstone, from The Recursive Universe
on “Is There a Limit to Scientific Understanding?” ↗