Stand on Zanzibar
by John Brunner · first published 1968
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Why HN recommends it
Hugo-winning 1968 dystopian SF about overpopulation, corporatism and terrorism, praised for eerily prescient predictions and its collage of cultural snippets; suits sci-fi fans curious about cyberpunk's roots.
Common criticism: Some find it dated or hard to read today
Summarised by Claude from recommending comments
"Originally published in 1968, Stand on Zanzibar was a breakthrough in science fiction storytelling technique, and a prophetic look at a dystopian 2010 that remains compelling today. Corporations have usurped democracy, ubiquitous information technology mediates human relationships, mass-marketed psychosomatic drugs keep billions docile, and genetic engineering is routine. Universal in reach, the world-system is out of control, and we are all its victims...and its creator"--Cover p. [4].
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…copyright date, and realized Brunner was projecting Richard Nixon's presidency forward. Sort of unrelated, is it me or does every other John Brunner book kind of suck? The Sheep Look Up, is good, so is Stand on Zanzibar, but then Brunner wrote real stinkers like Children of the Thunder, which also predicts a world of Usenet, UUCP-like email, and climate change. None of thse things have anything to do with that book sucking…
on “A 1969 New Wave Sci-Fi Novel That Made Correct Predictions” ↗…Zelazny's Lord of Light and This Immortal are both great. Some of Philip K. Dick's stuff is great, but everyone recommends him. :) almost forgot John Brunner, check out Steel Beach, The Sheep Look Up, and Stand on Zanzibar.
on “Ask YC: What's the most inspiring sci-fi book you've read?” ↗The Shockwave Rider is part of a sort-of-series of near-future novels by John Brunner. The others are Stand on Zanzibar (overpopulation), The Sheep Look Up (ecological catastrophe) and The Jagged Orbit (interracial violence).
on “Future Shock Documentary (1972) [video]” ↗Anyone interested in the roots of cyberpunk might also be interested in John Brunner's 1968 novel *Stand On Zanzibar*.
on “The Influence of Neuromancer on Cyberpunk” ↗…judge the book on that one slightly laughable thing about memory when, in other ways, it was incredibly forward looking and almost prophetic. He seems to understand humans. Gibson's world and Brunner's Stand on Zanzibar are imo the most "prophetic" sf books written so far.
on “Meta reuses old RAM in new servers with custom bridge chip” ↗The problem there is maybe that the novel length treatment of the idea is not quite as amazing as the original short story. One author that I find sadly missing from the list is John Brunner. Each of "Stand on Zanzibar", "The Sheep Look Up", and "Shockwave Rider" would arguably deserve a place on this list.
on “The Best Science Fiction Books (According to Reddit)” ↗For 55 years at least it was "Stand on Zanzibar" by John Brunner [0]. Now I am really impressed by the Culture serie [1] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand_on_Zanzibar [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_series
on “Ask HN: Which book had the biggest impact on your personality?” ↗…"the shockwave rider" [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shockwave_Rider] if you are at all a science fiction fan and you've not read brunner, i would strongly recommend his "big four" books at least - "stand on zanzibar", "the shockwave rider", "the jagged orbit" and "the sheep look up". he has a startlingly prescient vision of the kinds of dystopias we could be headed for.
on “How to disappear from the internet” ↗My username came from going through a huge John Brunner phase when I was a teenager. I always make sure to have at least two copies of Stand on Zanzibar on hand at any point in time so I can always gift one to a friend on a whim (I hunt used bookstores and pick up another copy if I’m below 3)
on “John Brunner's “Stand on Zanzibar” spookily predicted today” ↗IMO, Brunner has written four outstanding classics: "Stand on Zanzibar", " The Shockwave Rider", "The Sheep Look Up" and "The Jagged Orbit", and one that was not quite in that league, but was great niche sf, " The Squares of the City". the rest is all what I term "minor…
on “A 1969 New Wave Sci-Fi Novel That Made Correct Predictions” ↗For a Malthusian exploration of the psychological/technological impact of overpopulation, check out "Stand on Zanzibar" by John Brunner. It's a bit pulpy but has some very cool ideas.
on “Who are you calling Malthusian?” ↗Yes, I think the works of 60s/70s author John Brunner ("Stand on Zanzibar", "The Shockwave Rider") anticipated many cyberpunk ideas even before the Gibson/Sterling era. Key to this idea was a recognition that that the "third world" was going to matter more and more in the post-colonial…
on “The Cyberpunk Sensibility (2016)” ↗And another step? - one suggested in 1968 in John Brunner's 'Stand on Zanzibar' [0] which has the viewers inserted into the very programmes they are themselves watching. Truly an awesome book, and still amazingly fresh today. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand_on_Zanzibar
on “China's AI news anchors” ↗…in alphabetical order, backtracking my way sometimes to pick up on books that were borrowed by others, or just added new in previous passes. For that reason Brunner came rather early with pearls like 'Stand on Zanzibar' and of course 'The Shockwave Rider' most certainly fueling the habit. Even back then at a very young age I felt the dystopian writers for the most part were more thinking in terms of complete system…
on “John Brunner's “Stand on Zanzibar” spookily predicted today” ↗…rediscover John Brunner, he's one of my favorite authors. There's a quote i once heard that goes approximately like this : "Philip K Dicks novels turn into movies, John Brunners novels turn into reality". Stand on Zanzibar was a real trip the first time i read it, though in later years my favorite Brunner novel has been Squares of the City. Its not as scifi-ey as Zanzibar, but it is interesting for being built on a famous…
on “John Brunner's “Stand on Zanzibar” spookily predicted today” ↗