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Proofiness

The Dark Arts of Mathematical Deception

by Charles Seife · first published 2010

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In the tradition of Stephen Colbert's concept of truthiness, Proofiness explores the intersection of chicanery and mathematics. The author explores regression, false correlation, Potemkin numbers, and a variety of other sketchy techniques used to make people think that the data reflect patterns that don't exist in actuality. How to Lie With Statistics would strike me as a readalike.

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  • ChuckMcM · Jul 27, 2011 · Recommends

    …pulling out all of the actual things the author wanted to say, and then laying those out in a more cohesive fashion. For those interested in the abuse of numbers in rhetoric I can reccomend the book 'Proofiness' [1] which talks about ways people abuse mathematics as a rhetorical tool. Science is one of those things that also helps lay people feel better about believing in something. I agree with the original…

    on “Why I Hate Science” ↗
  • folbec · Oct 2, 2017 · Recommends

    "Proofiness" : https://www.amazon.com/Proofiness-Youre-Being-Fooled-Numbers... It is also a common tread in books by Tufte : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Tufte I like "Visual Explanations: Images and Quantities,…

    on “Whom the Gods Would Destroy, They First Give Real-Time Analytics (2013)” ↗
  • ChuckMcM · Dec 20, 2012 · Recommends

    Recommended reading "Proofiness: The Dark Arts of Mathematical Deception" by Seife. Talks about this fallacy and others in depth. The best approach is multi-variate analysis. Which is to say for each correlation you find, identify…

    on “The Ecological Fallacy” ↗
  • ChuckMcM · Jan 21, 2014 · Mentions

    Sigh what a squishy article. What is the methodology? What is the sampling error? What does "OK" mean relative to "Good" ? This reminds me of the anecdotes in "Proofiness"[1] which talk about how the news industry figured out they could manufacture news by taking a poll. [1] http://www.amazon.com/Proofiness-Youre-Being-Fooled-Numbers/...

    on “Apple Falls Behind Microsoft, Samsung, Sony In New Consumer Experience Survey” ↗
  • ChuckMcM · Feb 10, 2012 · Mentions

    …VC's that I've met don't usually take that level risk, they wait until there is at least some expectation that the team can deliver something (hence the MVP requirement in many series A rounds). [1] In "Proofiness: The Dark Arts of Mathematical Deception", Charles Seife claims that NASA asked GE to calculate the chances of success in the Moon Landing and came out with 5%. http://www.amazon.com/Proofiness-Dark-Arts-Mathematical-Dece...

    on “99 Problems But Money Ain't One” ↗
  • ChuckMcM · Aug 21, 2019 · Mentions

    Exactly this, and then there are people who exploit this in order to skew perceptions as described in "Proofiness: How you're being fooled by the numbers."[1] [1] https://www.amazon.com/Proofiness-Youre-Being-Fooled-Numbers...

    on “Mortgage Market Reopens to Risky Borrowers” ↗

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