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Of pandas and people

by P. William Davis · first published 1993

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  • cpeterso · Jul 21, 2019 · Mentions

    For a famous example of find and replace gone wrong, see the case about the creationist Of Pandas and People textbook and cdesign proponentsists: The term "creationists" was changed to "design proponents", but in one case the beginning and end of the original word "creationists" were accidentally retained,…

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  • msla · Aug 30, 2019 · Mentions

    …https://ncse.com/creationism/legal/cdesign-proponentsists > For years, "intelligent design" (ID) proponents denied that ID is just a new label for creationism. However, it is now well-known that the first intelligent design "textbook," Of Pandas and People, is just a revised version of a classic "two-model' creationism vs. evolution book named Creation Biology. As Barbara Forrest showed during her testimony in Kitzmiller v. Dover, Pandas was remade into…

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  • dalke · May 22, 2019 · Critical

    …design. As a reminder, this association was also affirmed by the US court system in Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District. Among other things, it was demonstrated that the intelligent design textbook "Of Pandas and People" was written by taking a creationist textbook and replacing "creationism" with "intelligent design", "creationist" with "intelligent design proponent", etc. It's therefore more correct to say the term…

  • dalke · Sep 13, 2016 · Mentions

    …do a misfavor by using the phrase "breathlessly conflated" in a comment which supports being aware that others may be "starting from a different premise", etc. It doesn't help that the authors of a "Of Pandas and People", an ID textbook, effectively did a search and replace in early drafts of "creationism" with "intelligent design", and "intelligent creator" to "intelligent agency", after Edwards v. Aguillard settled…

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  • stan_rogers · Feb 25, 2014 · Mentions

    Rather reminds me of the "cdesign proponentsists" version of Of Pandas and People.

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  • eesmith · Jul 31, 2019 · Mentions

    …mentions several times 'intelligent design', is little more than a renaming of "creationism". As pointed out during the Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District trial, drafts of the creationist textbook "Of Pandas and People" show that the term "creationism" and "Creation Science" were nearly all replaced with "intelligent design" and, famously, on use of "creationists" was changed to "cdesign proponentsists". When you see…

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