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Leading lean software development

results are not the point

by Mary Poppendieck · first published 2010

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  • viraptor · Aug 3, 2010 · Recommends

    …"A song of stone" are definitely not light reading, but worth spending some time on them. His science-fiction is much simpler, but... didn't get me as excited as "Walking on glass". Non-fiction: - "Leading Lean Software Development - Results are not the point" (http://www.amazon.com/Leading-Lean-Software-Development-Resu...) is the best team / organisation / project leading book I've seen. I hate most of books like that with passion,…

    on “Ask HN: Summer Reading Recommendations?” ↗
  • wpietri · Oct 14, 2015 · Recommends

    …in advance, at least not as we understand plans today: https://chrisgagne.com/1255/mary-poppendiecks-the-tyranny-of... And there's a better telling of it in her excellent book: http://www.amazon.com/Leading-Lean-Software-Development-Resu... This makes a ton of sense to me; the American culture around plans is thoroughly fucked. In software, otherwise reasonable people expect me to give them numbers at the drop of a hat. When will…

    on “From $250M to $6.5B: The Bay Bridge Cost Overrun” ↗
  • viraptor · Jul 1, 2015 · Recommends

    "Leading Lean Software Development: Results Are not the Point" is pretty good, I think. You definitely shouldn't use it as the only book, but it's worth reading.

    on “Ask HN: What are good books for first-time IT Manager?” ↗
  • wpietri · Sep 16, 2013 · Mentions

    …them shouldn't be, because there are more effective ways to get results. You can read more about that, and about the 3M example, in Mary Poppendieck's books. I think the specific one I have in mind Leading Lean Software Development.

    on “Software Development Estimates: Where Do I Start?” ↗
  • …interacting agents. Some systems work really well that way. Some don't. > You can read more about that, and about the 3M example, in Mary Poppendieck's books. I think the specific one I have in mind Leading Lean Software Development. I'll pick it up, thanks for the reference.

    on “Software Development Estimates: Where Do I Start?” ↗
  • wpietri · May 17, 2016 · Mentions

    …floors. But that was fine, because they were working in a flow-oriented approach: https://chrisgagne.com/1255/mary-poppendiecks-the-tyranny-of... (It's also covered in one of her books, and I think it's "Leading Lean Software Development".) As we know with software, big up-front design approaches can get unnecessarily long, confusing, and expensive. (See, for example, the healthcare.gov fiasco.) But we also know that approaches that…

    on “Why U.S. Infrastructure Costs So Much” ↗
  • Jtsummers · Dec 28, 2018 · Mentions

    I think the first one I read was Lean Software Development then I went through Leading Lean Software Development and Implementing Lean Software Development. It's been a while, but as I recall the latter two can be treated something like workbooks. How to go from "traditional" project management towards lean/agile.…

    on “Ask HN: Books you plan to read in 2019?” ↗

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