Hell to pay
by D. M. Giangreco · first published 2009
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A comprehensive and compelling examination of the many complex issues that comprised the strategic plans for the American invasion of Japan, this groundbreaking history counters the revisionist interpretations that question President Truman's rationale for using the atom bomb.
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How many people were prematurely dying every month in the Greater East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere after we took back the Philippines? The latest, best estimate I've seen, in the excellent book Hell to Pay: Operation Downfall and the Invasion of Japan, 1945-1947 (https://www.amazon.com/Hell-Pay-Operation-Downfall-1945-1947...) was 400,000, up from the 250,000 I'd picked up somewhere I can't remember. It…
on “Transcript of Conversations among German Nuclear Physicists at Farm Hall (1945) [pdf]” ↗…after they'd taken so many of the islands to the north. Details about this, and the massive resources that would have been required by us to take just Sapporo, can be found in the highly recommended Hell to Pay: Operation Downfall and the Invasion of Japan, 1945-1947 (https://www.amazon.com/Hell-Pay-Operation-Downfall-1945-1947...) I recommend elsewhere in this subthread. To imagine this was a major factor…
on “Transcript of Conversations among German Nuclear Physicists at Farm Hall (1945) [pdf]” ↗Go take a look to Hell to Pay by D.M. Giangreco. Compared to the alternatives - mass starvation of the Japanese by blockade, or tens of millions of Japanese deaths, and one million American deaths, it's looks like a bargain, and it…
on “Tokyo WWII firebombing, the most deadly bombing raid, remembered 70 years on” ↗…be Japanese by then. But not hardly so bad as the subject people in the Greater East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere, which they were killing at a rate of 400,000 per month by then. I'm finishing reading Hell to Pay: Operation Downfall and the Invasion of Japan, 1945-1947 http://www.amazon.com/Hell-Pay-Operation-Downfall-1945-1947/... and it's really sobering. Olympic as planned, the invasion of southern Kyuushu,…
on “Why Japanese leaders attacked Pearl Harbor” ↗Also incorrect. The Atomic bomb and the Soviet invasion of Japan held China where both devestating. But as D.M Giangreco documents in "Hell to Pay", at the time, the "Peace Party" in the cabinet, most notably Kido, felt that the Atomic bomb was exactly what they needed to end the war. Kido and others in the peace party literally described it as…
on “Tokyo WWII firebombing, the most deadly bombing raid, remembered 70 years on” ↗Hell to Pay: Operation Downfall and the Invasion of Japan by Giangreco is a comparison of the American plans for the invasion of the Home Islands with the Japanese plans for their defense. It talks through the cost…
on “The price of the Manhattan Project (2013)” ↗D. M. Giangreco agrees with this assessment. His book "Hell to Pay" examines many complex issues involved in the strategic and tactical planning of both the U.S. and Japan using documents from both sides, including postwar reports that the Japanese wrote for General…