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Grammatical man

by Jeremy Campbell · first published 1973

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Popular history of information theory tying Shannon's entropy and communication ideas to linguistics, biology and life; praised as a fascinating, accessible read for curious non-specialists and those new to the subject.

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Just as physics made sense out of the mysteries of earth, air, fire, and water, it can be said that the science of information enriches and unifies an amazing diversity of modern sciences, from physics and mathematics to biology and linguistics. Because symbols, messages, and codes are the stuff not only of computers and telecommunications, but also of living organisms and the forms of human knowledge, information, and thus information theory, is universal. This is the first book to tell the story of information theory, how it arose with the development of radar during World War II, and how it

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What Hacker News says

  • argonium · Jan 29, 2019 · Recommends

    There's a fantastic book on Shannon called "Grammatical Man", by Jeremy Campbell - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000KHFL0W

    on “The Man Who Invented Information Theory (2017)” ↗
  • RockyMcNuts · Sep 2, 2017 · Recommends

    …Dancing Wu Li Masters, by Gary Zukav The Naked Ape, by Desmond Morris The Road to Serfdom, by Friedrich Hayek The Worldly Philosophers, by Robert Heilbroner The Story of Philosophy, by Will Durant Grammatical Man, by Jeremy Campbell Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, by Robert M. Pirsig Flow, by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi

    on “Ask HN: What books have made the biggest impact on your mental models?” ↗
  • RockyMcNuts · Oct 3, 2010 · Recommends

    …elusiveness of reality. If a particle is just a probability density function of potential interactions with other particles, does the substance of reality reside in the particle, or in the interaction? Grammatical Man : Information, Entropy, Language and Life, by Jeremy Campbell. Is the substance of reality matter or information, or are they the same? If biology is applied chemistry, which is applied physics, which…

    on “Ask HN: Good books?” ↗
  • dredmorbius · Jan 19, 2020 · Recommends

    In no particular order, and some of these being more "highly underrated" as opposed to "unknown", with the notable exception of Smith's Wealth of Nations which is disturbingly un- and mis-read: 1. Grammatical Man, by Jeremy Campbell (1982) https://www.worldcat.org/title/grammatical-man-information-e... My introduction to information theory and its diverse set of interrelated applications and phenomena. 2. Ecology…

    on “Ask HN: What are the best unknown books you have read?” ↗
  • compay · Oct 23, 2010 · Recommends

    If you're looking for a good read, I enjoyed Jeremy Campbell's "Grammatical Man" quite a bit, it ties together information theory and linguistics. Obviously not the most in-depth book on either topic, but fascinating nonetheless. http://www.amazon.com/Grammatical-Man-Information-Entropy-La...

    on “A Short, Simple Introduction to Information Theory” ↗
  • dredmorbius · Aug 12, 2016 · Recommends

    …communication which is completely novel simply won't be understood. A communication which is completely known conveys no new information. You need a balance. I think I first encountered this concept in Grammatical Man, a 1980s-ish book by Jeremy Campbell on information and chaos theory, exceptionally well written, and highly recommended. More recently, recalling as I write this, I've seen a plot of the level of understanding…

    on “What I learned as a hired consultant to autodidact physicists” ↗
  • dredmorbius · Aug 8, 2016 · Recommends

    …Though 30+ years old, they remain highly current and relevant. https://www.worldcat.org/title/connections/oclc/4494136 https://www.worldcat.org/title/day-the-universe-changed/oclc... Jeremy Campbell's Grammatical Man (1984) introduced the concepts of information theory and their deep, deep, deep interconnections to a tremendous number of interconnected systems, many not explored within his book. Darwin's The Origin…

    on “Ask HN: What book have you given as a gift?” ↗
  • dredmorbius · Sep 14, 2016 · Recommends

    …Though 30+ years old, they remain highly current and relevant. https://www.worldcat.org/title/connections/oclc/4494136 https://www.worldcat.org/title/day-the-universe-changed/oclc... Jeremy Campbell's Grammatical Man (1984) introduced the concepts of information theory and their deep, deep, deep interconnections to a tremendous number of interconnected systems, many not explored within his book. Darwin's The Origin…

    on “Ask HN: What good books have you read lately?” ↗
  • toomanybeersies · Apr 7, 2021 · Recommends

    Funny you mention that story, I came across it for the first time about 3 days ago in a book I was reading -- Grammatical Man. It's one of the best reads I've found on the history of information theory. Funnily enough the friend that lent it to me isn't even a tech person, he's an electrician who's more interested in occultism…

    on “The Unparalleled Genius of John von Neumann (2019)” ↗
  • dedalus · Nov 5, 2017 · Recommends

    …ever wanted to know what happens inside a browser The Computer and the Brain: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/358880.The_Computer_and_... where the master compares the machine with our brain The Grammatical Man: If you ever wanted to know the importance of structure and constraint in everything: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/722028.Grammatical_Man

    on “Ask HN: What are your favorite books of all time, and why?” ↗
  • vishnugupta · Feb 5, 2019 · Recommends

    …system. "Broken Republic": This is by far the most accurate description about current affairs in India. How India is being hollowed out and how its most vulnerable section is the one fighting against it. "Grammatical Man: Information, Entropy, Language and Life": I'm currently reading it (20% through) and it has already made a big impact. The meaning of information is deep and subtle and pervades not just human being…

    on “Ask HN: What books changed the way you think about almost everything?” ↗
  • Jeremy Campbell's The Grammatical Man would like a word with you on Lovelace actual documented contributions.

    on “Turing Oversold?” ↗
  • dredmorbius · Mar 28, 2021 · Mentions

    …Liar's Tale: A History of Falsehood (https://www.worldcat.org/title/liars-tale-a-history-of-false...), and concludes that lying is a universal behaviour. (Campbell's other notable book, the 1982 title Grammatical Man, is about information theory, and was a fascinating introduction to the field for me.)

    on “How can you tell if someone is lying?” ↗

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