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Embracing Defeat

by John W. Dower · first published 1999

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John Dower, distinguished historian of modern Japan, casts his eye on the immediate aftermath of World War II. Drawing on a vast range of Japanese sources, this new study illuminates how shattering defeat followed by over six years of American military occupation affected every level of Japanese society in ways that neither the victor nor the vanquished could anticipate. The great achievement of Embracing Defeat lies in its vivid portrayal of the countless ways in which the Japanese met the challenge of "starting over" - from top-level manipulations concerning the fate of Emperor Hirohito to

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  • aomurphy · Nov 8, 2014 · Recommends

    The book where I read most of this from is Embracing Defeat: Japan in the Wake of World War II by John Dower. It's a big book, and covers a lot about occupation, not just economics, but I found it engrossing and quite readable. It's a little out of date now, being…

    on “Doing Business in Japan” ↗
  • JoeDaDude · Aug 17, 2023 · Recommends

    Embracing Defeat by John Dower. The history of Japan's defeat in World War II is well known, but less known is how Japan transformed from a quasi-theocratic military dictatorship to the liberal democracy it is today.…

    on “Ask HN: Any interesting books you have read lately?” ↗
  • scott_s · Sep 5, 2015 · Recommends

    "Drink: A Cultural History of Alcohol", which I talked about in a thread recently: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10146846 Before that, it was "Embracing Defeat: Japan in the Wake of World War II". I decided to read it because I saw a kinda not great movie about the period immediately after surrender, and I realized it was something I knew almost nothing about.…

    on “Ask HN: What books are you reading?” ↗
  • AlexCoventry · May 21, 2017 · Mentions

    > I don't know what lens you are looking at this through... Mostly from reading Buruma's Inventing Japan, and Dower's War Without Mercy and Embracing Defeat. The fact that the pre-Perry regime was nasty has no bearing on the causal factors of Japan's later imperialism

  • freeflight · Apr 18, 2021 · Mentions

    …both prostitution and fraternization illegal, the number of reported rapes soared, showing that prostitution and the easy availability of women had suppressed incidents of rape. > John Dower, in his Embracing Defeat: Japan in the Wake of World War II, cites author Yoshimi Kaneko's claim that while the U.S./Japanese-sponsored brothels were open “the number of rapes and assaults on Japanese women were around 40 a day,”…

  • cdavid · Aug 8, 2024 · Mentions

    …destroyed, and things could have gone really badly, especially in Japan. I can't find the reference right but I remember reading average adult calorie intake to drop to ~1200 kcals in 1947/1948 in "embracing defeat" by John Dower. That period has a huge influence on Japan to this day, including architecture of Tokyo through black market. Both Japan and Germany had strong military govt culture, and became reliably…

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  • avidiax · Feb 14, 2025 · Mentions

    I read the "Embracing Defeat" by John Dower. It's about Japan instead, but what struck me is that the wealthy and powerful in general paid little price and perhaps even enriched themselves from the war. All the government warehouses…

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  • ble · Feb 17, 2022 · Mentions

    …presume that the treatment of the civilian population was worse for indigenous Okinawans-- maybe even today Okinawans can find themselves treated as 'not real Japanese'. It's been a while since I read 'Embracing Defeat' but I recall its summary of the state of Japan towards the end of the war and a lecturer saying, in effect, that nobody had to invade Japan to cause the deaths of millions, the supply chain (Asian mainland…

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  • duaneb · Dec 5, 2015 · Mentions

    I've been reading Dower's"Embracing Defeat: Japan in the Wake of World War II" and I think embarrassment is a significant factor, though this is not exclusive with your explanations. While the nation as a whole may not exhibit signs of shame,…

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  • WalterBright · Dec 11, 2024 · Mentions

    …don't recommend reading any of them, they're very unpleasant reading. But it's important to document what happened. "After the Reich", NacDonogh "An Eye For An Eye", Sack "Crimes and Mercies", Bacque "Embracing Defeat", Dower "Gruesome Harvest", Keeling "Justice At Nuremburg", Conot "Other Losses", Bacque "The Nuremburg Trial", Tusa "The Long Road Home", Shephard

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