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Ecology and the politics of scarcity

by William Ophuls · first published 1977

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Based on the author's thesis, Yale, 1973.Includes index. Bibliography: p. [249]-284.

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  • dredmorbius · May 16, 2022 · Recommends

    …that political barriers to effectively addressing the problematique in a manner that avoids catastrophic outcomes seem extraordinarily stubborn. I strongly recommend the works of William Ophusl, notably Ecology and the Politics of Scarcity (1977, 1994) and Plato's Revenge (2011).[2] Thomas Homer-Dixon is a political science scholar who seems to be continuing the work: https://homerdixon.com/ Global responses over the past two years and…

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  • dredmorbius · Sep 25, 2016 · Recommends

    …where'd you learn about it? On coercion -- you might be interested in William Ophuls. He's a political writer (Yale PhD and professor, worked in the US Foreign Service as well). His primary work is Ecology and the Politics of Scarcity (1977), which lays out the fundamental problem and dynamics. He's continued the discussion in a series of books published through 2013, of which Plato's Revenge and Requiem for Modern Politics are probably…

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  • dredmorbius · Feb 27, 2017 · Recommends

    …http://www.worldcat.org/title/limits-to-growth/oclc/70551520... The 30 year update: http://www.worldcat.org/title/limits-to-growth-the-30-year-u... For a view of the political and social realities of addressing limits, I can't recommend William Ophuls, Ecology and the Politics of Scarcity highly enough. http://www.worldcat.org/title/ecology-and-the-politics-of-sc... Joseph Tainter, The Collapse of Complex Societies, spells out the more general dynamic. http://www.worldcat.org/title/collapse-of-complex-societies/...

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  • dredmorbius · Sep 24, 2016 · Recommends

    …capabilities than the USSR through much of the postwar period, total ground fources excepted). 3. William Ophuls, a little-known author, who combines ecology and political science. In his 1977 book Ecology and the Politics of Scarcity, he calls much of the subsequent three decades of development, including the fall of the USSR, the industrialisation of China, and the nonindustrialisation (mostly) of India and Africa. Moreover, he…

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  • dredmorbius · Dec 14, 2017 · Recommends

    If you want context, I'd recommend reading books. There's one in particular that has an excellent bibliography, and which I've cribbed from extensively: William Ophuls, Ecology and the Politics of Scarcity, published in 1977. I'm linking the 1992 update (which might be found online via LibGen or Bo-ok.org), which doesn't depart much from the original, does extend some observations, and should include the…

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  • dredmorbius · Feb 28, 2018 · Recommends

    …and/or editorial assistance to tighten up and clean up his writing. That said, despite the similarities, the works do complement one another. Another author I'd recommend is William Ophuls, particularly Ecology and the Politics of Scarcity (1977, revised ~1994), which predates but also anticipates much of Tainter's work. Ophul's background and focus is politics and polity, but through the lenses of ecology and Limits to Growth particularly.…

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  • dredmorbius · May 12, 2019 · Recommends

    …Capacity: Article: https://www.worldcat.org/title/population-economics-environm... Book: How many people can the earth support? https://www.worldcat.org/title/how-many-people-can-the-earth... Ophuls, Ecology and the Politics of Scarcity: https://www.worldcat.org/title/ecology-and-the-politics-of-s... Ophul's bibliographies are excellent, one online: https://old.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/6fgq8g/william... Smil, Energy and…

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  • dredmorbius · Nov 12, 2019 · Recommends

    …like to read a comprehensive if rather depressing look at the question of how politics responds to the challenges of limits and scarcity, I'd strongly recommend William Ophuls, particularly his original Ecology and the Politics of Scarcity: https://www.worldcat.org/title/ecology-and-the-politics-of-s... (That's the 1992 revised edition, original was published in 1977: https://www.worldcat.org/title/ecology-and-the-politics-of-s...)…

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  • dredmorbius · Nov 15, 2021 · Recommends

    …and metaphorically. And that quibbling's been going on for well over a half-century (again, with different foci). I'm digging through an excellent 1970s treatment of the general issue, William Ophuls, Ecology and the Politics of Scarcity*. The international dimension begins at roughly page 200. The book as a whole is excellent, as are many of the author's subsequent works, exquisitely researched, argued, written, and referenced. Ophuls's…

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  • dredmorbius · Sep 21, 2023 · Recommends

    …Arabia, Russia, Canada, China; natural gas: USA, Russia, Iran, Qatar, China, sourced from BP Statistical Review of World Energy 2022. 2. Excellent contemporaneous discussion of this in William Ophuls, Ecology and the Politics of Scarcity, 1977, particularly Chapter 7. <https://www.worldcat.org/title/2524932> <https://archive.org/details/ecologypoliticso0000ophu> 3. See: Hobbes and Adam Smith.

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  • dredmorbius · Jan 19, 2020 · Recommends

    …Man, by Jeremy Campbell (1982) https://www.worldcat.org/title/grammatical-man-information-e... My introduction to information theory and its diverse set of interrelated applications and phenomena. 2. Ecology and the Politics of Scarcity, by William Ophuls (1977) https://www.worldcat.org/title/ecology-and-the-politics-of-s... Distills the Limits to Growth issue to its essence, and looks at the political implications, with a set of estimates…

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  • dredmorbius · Jul 7, 2022 · Recommends

    …William Ophuls and Thomas Homer-Dixon are two authors in particular who have been looking at the political challenges of adapting to ecological limits. I strongly recommend all Ophuls' work, though Ecology and the Politics of Scarcity (first published in 1977, revised ~1994) and Plato’s Revenge (2011) are probably the best starting points. The first secion of Ecology in particular makes one of the most cogent arguments for the Limits…

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  • dredmorbius · Aug 9, 2016 · Recommends

    Ophuls is a tremendously underappreciated author. I'd recommend going back to his 1977 Ecology and the Politics of Scarcity, which is one of the best distillations of the ecological and limits arguments, and one of the very few extensions of that to political space, I've seen. I'm still planning on writing a proper review…

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  • dredmorbius · Aug 23, 2016 · Recommends

    …particularly sanguine. There are many books and authors on this topic. For the energy angle, I strongly recommend Vaclav Smil. For the political dynamics, William Ophuls is among the best I've read. His 1977 Ecology and the Politics of Scarcity is a brief, but commanding overview of the problems and dynamics. It's long ago enough that many of its predictions are testable. While pessimistic on population and food, much the rest has held up,…

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  • dredmorbius · Nov 5, 2016 · Recommends

    …(mostly 20th & 21st century) thought on ecology, limits, and the interactions of these with polity. His bibliographies are excellent, and worth publishing on their own right. I'd recommend his 1977 Ecology and the Politics of Scarcity and his more recent Plato's Revenge. The former focuses more on the ecological case, the latter more on the questions (with very few answers suggested -- he's really exploring the problem space) of how…

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