Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother
by Amy Chua · first published 2011
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Amy Chua's daughters, Sophia and Louisa (Lulu) were polite, interesting and helpful; they had perfect school marks and exceptional abilities. The Chinese parenting model certainly seemed to produce results. But what happens when a screaming child, who would sooner freeze outside in the cold than be forced to play the piano, confronts you? BATTLE HYMN OF THE TIGER MOTHER is a story about a mother, two daughters, and two dogs. It was supposed to be a story of how Chinese parents are better at raising kids than Western ones. But instead, it's about a clash of cultures, a fleeting taste of glory,
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…music theory, some obscure foreign language, ... anything. * Do reasonably well in your classes. But don't be afraid to get a few B's. Disappoint your family slightly, not totally. * Read Amy Chua's Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother. Wonderfully insightful and funny, and based on what you say I imagine the story she tells will be familiar as hell. * Tell all of this to your family. IMHO, you will be very, very glad you did so no…
on “Depressed and need advice” ↗I believe the term "tiger mother" was popularised by Amy Chua's book "Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother" which is a great read for people interested in parenting. It's been a few years since I've read the book, but your upbringing sounds extreme dissimilar from what Chua calls tiger parenting. Where you…
on “The Last of the Tiger Parents” ↗I read Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother two years ago. Though the book has a bit of controversy around it, I really enjoyed seeing what Asian tiger-parenting looks like, and how it blew up in her face with her second daughter and how she had…
on “Ask HN: What's the best book you read in 2021?” ↗I was under the impression that Amy Chua (the woman who wrote "Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother") gave up the "tiger mom" strategy after one of her children had a breakdown: "What brings the situation to an end is two horrifying incidents. First, Lulu hacks off her hair with a pair of scissors;…
on “Children of parents classified as “tiger” have worse grades, are more depressed” ↗From my perspective as someone who has become familiar with Amy Chua only recently, what is going on is your typical college campus cancel culture story. Amy Chua authored Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother and is a political moderate wary of tribalism, and is now the target of ideologically progressive students, administrators, activists, and news media. The push against her is due to her affiliation with…
on “What is going on at Yale Law School?” ↗> Amy Chua authored Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother and is a political moderate She also authored World on Fire. "Political moderate"?
on “What is going on at Yale Law School?” ↗…pockets, conflicts-of-interest, and occasionally, actual crime. I was following the article until I ran into xenophobia: "The absurd parental efforts of an Amy Chua, as recounted in her 2010 bestseller Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother, were simply a much more extreme version of widespread behavior among her peer-group, which is why her story resonated so deeply among our educated elites." Chua is an immigrant academic who has devoted…
on “Most US professors are trained at same few elite universities” ↗This reminds me of the book “Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother” (admittedly by the since somewhat disgraced for other reasons, Amy Chua) where the central argument is that by pushing children to continue doing something even (especially) when it gets hard, they will…
on “Screw motivation, what you need is discipline” ↗I don't even understand the internal logic of "Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother". The reasoning seems to go like this: Asians-Americans make more money. Chinese-Americans are Asian-Americans. Raise your kids the way Chinese parents do. If you look at the stats, Chinese-Americans…
on “How Not to Explain Success” ↗…education and sacrifice. Compare East Asians with SouthEast Asians with Island Asians. Still, from my exposure, there is a large percentage whose parents inculcate learning and education and sacrifice (ex. Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother as modern example). On the other hand look at Appalachian whites. Education is made fun of and they are some of the poorest people in America. Essentially, make education and learning something held…
on “I only got that job because I’m a girl” ↗