A Fire upon the Deep
by Vernor Vinge · first published 1992
56% recommend41% neutral3% critical
Why HN recommends it
Far-future space opera with inventive worldbuilding, including zones where intelligence and technology vary and a post-singularity threat. Suits readers who want hard-SF ideas, sparse exposition and strong pacing.
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Thousands of years in the future, humanity is no longer alone in a universe where a mind's potential is determined by its location in space, from superintelligent entities in the Transcend, to the limited minds of the Unthinking Depths, where only simple creatures, and technology, can function. Nobody knows what strange force partitioned space into these "regions of thought," but when the warring Straumli realm use an ancient Transcendent artifact as a weapon, they unwittingly unleash an awesome power that destroys thousands of worlds and enslaves all natural and artificial intelligence. Fl
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I'd have to recommend 'A deepness in the sky' and 'A fire upon the deep' by Vernor Vinge. Both really good science fiction books where your initial perception is slowly shown to be incorrect as more details appear about the characters, and with great storylines. Despite being…
on “Ask HN: Recommend one book I need to read this summer?” ↗I'm fond of "A Fire Upon the Deep" by Vernor Vinge, and its kind of prequel "A Deepness in the Sky", they both contain some great ideas and I love the fact they have some very alien aliens! Oh and if you haven't read any Douglas Adams…
on “Ask HN: What are the best Sci-Fi books you've ever read?” ↗…art that revels in torture, graphic violence and emotional abuse as an end unto itself. If you want an example of science fiction as high art, personally I would suggest Vernor Vinge (specifically A Fire Upon the Deep and A Deepness in the Sky) and Ursula Le Guin.
on “Gene Wolfe Turned Science Fiction into High Art (2019)” ↗If you're a Vinge fan, the annotated version of A Fire Upon the Deep is a great find (available on Kindle); it has his emacs notes (linked in-text) and you can watch the characters develop, his editor suggest improvements, etc. Looks like his system hasn't changed all…
on “Screenshot: "A Fire Upon the Deep" sequel (2011)” ↗You've just been reading the wrong science fiction. One of the great concepts in Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge is a galaxy wide internet and the malevolence in it is effectively just a super virus. Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson has something what you describe also with a great "information economy",…
on “The Economics of Science Fiction” ↗Vernor Vinge does a great job with this in A Fire Upon the Deep and A Deepness in the Sky. I do wish that he had written more about Pham Numen and the Qeng Ho, back in their Slow Zone heyday. Alastair Reynolds also does a great job with this in his Revelation Space…
on “Ways to travel at nearly the speed of light” ↗…Carbon, Broken Angels, Woken Furies). Closest in tone. For god's sake don't watch the Amazon series for plot. Effinger comes up on a lot of lists, although I haven't read it myself yet. Vernor Vinge (A Fire Upon the Deep, A Deepness in the Sky, The Children of the Sky). Space opera instead of cyberpunk, but shares early Gibson's "incremental exposition," where you figure things out gradually vs all at once. Tbh, I think…
on “William Gibson is a literary genius” ↗If you like sci-fi takes on software systems, check out Vernor Vinge "A Fire upon the deep" and sequels. I recall ship systems software is something like all the code humanity has ever written, plus centuries of LLM churn. One of the protagonists is a space faring software developer particularly…
on “Vibe coding and agentic engineering are getting closer than I'd like” ↗…web (http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/under.htm) to see if you like his style - I do. Vernor Vinge, A Deepness in the Sky, The Peace War, Marooned in Realtime. All great novels, but start from A Fire Upon the Deep (I read that in 2008) if you haven't read Vinge before, it's the best introduction. Greg Egan, Diaspora, Quarantine, Distress. Egan is the best hardcore SF author out there. _Diaspora_ is a fascinating…
on “Ask HN: Great books you read in 2009?” ↗I basically discovered Vernor Vinge. A Fire Upon the Deep, by Vernor Vinge A Deepness in the Sky, by Vernor Vinge The Peace War, by Vernor Vinge Marooned in Realtime, by Vernor Vinge Hyperion, by Dan Simmons Mrs. Perkins's Electric Quilt, a fun book about…
on “Ask HN: Great books you read in 2009?” ↗…50-60 pages long but turns out to actually be only about 12. Still manages to feel 50 pages long to me. YMMV.) Strongly recommend, and despite being listed as a "prequel" you do not need to have read A Fire Upon the Deep first; only a handful of throwaway details will be mysterious as a result and none of them matter much to you. Vinge does not fall into any of the usual "prequel" issues that for instance the Dune prequels…
on “A Deepness In The Sky” ↗…most of Stross' work (particularly Accelerando, which has an insane idea density), the Culture books in all of their socialistic contrarian splendour but I also love all of Vinge's work - particularly A Fire Upon the Deep (for its sheer sensawunda) and Deepness.
on “A Deepness In The Sky” ↗If you're into sci-fi I urge you to read Vernor Vinge's A Fire Upon the Deep [1]. It doesn't have a lot to do with this except that it has a fairly primitive society that has high-tech dumped on it in two different camps and what eventuates is an arms race. In the same vein is…
on “Guy makes a knife from scratch. He has to make a smelter first.” ↗Did anyone else note the similarity with Vernor Vinge's excellent fiction 'A Fire Upon the Deep' and that headline? I guess it is going to be one of the metrics of civil war state if the country's Internet connectivity begins to fluctuate.
on “Syrian Internet Is Off The Air” ↗i'm surprised no one has mentioned 'the expanse' series of books yet. also, 'a fire upon the deep' and 'a darkness in the sky' by vernor vinge.
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